When DEI Is Off the Table: How Higher Ed Leaders Can Still Drive Institutional Change: Changing Higher Ed podcast 261 with host Dr. Drumm McNaughton and guest Susan Sturm
The Change Leader, Inc.
MAY 27, 2025
In this episode, Dr. Drumm McNaughton speaks with Professor Susan Sturm of Columbia Law School, whose decades of work across higher ed, law, and social systems offer a deeper framework for moving from polarization to transformation. Help your leadership team learn to hold contradiction rather than rush to resolve it.
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